Thor Ragnarok Trailer – 5 Talking Points

The Thor Ragnarok trailer has landed and it’s probably our most anticipated comic book film out this year. Here’s some talking points we thought worthy of…well…talking about.

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Hel and Hela

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The trailer kicks off with Thor bound by chains in a realm that is probably, almost definitely, not Asgard. In fact, I think this is Niffleheim, which is not-so-coincidentally the realm that Hel is a part of. I don’t know why it’s only spelt with one L, maybe the Christians trademarked using two. WHO KNOWS.

Hel is the realm of death – obviously – and this certainly makes sense given that Ragnarok, in Norse mythology, essentially means the end of everything. Presumably, this scene takes place after Hela, the ruler of Hel has taken it upon herself to destroy Asgard for genuine villainous reasons. 

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Here she is, with and without pointy hat. The rumour goes that Hela escapes Hel, which is where Odin has trapped her, thanks to Loki who has let security slip a little since exiling his adopted father and taking his place on the throne of Asgard. I’m guessing that once Ragnarok is over we’ll be seeing Hela again in Avengers: Infinity War. As anyone who’s read the Infinity Gauntlet book will know, ‘Death’ plays a huge role in this storyline and Hela may well take the place of that character in the films. Death is the character that inspires Thanos to destroy everything using the Infinity Gauntlet as he attempts to earn her love. 

Thor – Unworthy? 

Here’s Hela destroying Thor’s hammer, Mjölnir. This is a pretty huge thing. Thor’s hammer has been destroyed in the comics before by a number of his enemies but no-one else in the MCU has been able to even budge it (maybe Cap did…?) let alone break it apart.

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Clearly Hela is a superior power to anything Thor has faced so far in this universe, but is it also a sign that he might not be worthy to wield Mjölnir anymore? We had this storyline in Thor: The First Thor so I doubt they’d do the whole unworthy thing again but it’ll be interesting to see where Thor’s character goes after the destruction of the item that pretty much defines his self-worth. 

1527983-thor_055.jpgThere’s been some speculation that Thor may acquire the Ultimate Universe version of his hammer which has a cool axe attachment but this seems unlikely given that the Ultimate Universe is not at all established in the MCU. Saying that, Doctor Strange has introduced us to all sorts of other realms and timelines so it is certainly plausible.  

What’s more likely is that Thor will start wielding his alternate weapon, the battle axe Jarnbjorn. We might have had a clue to this in some recent Infinity War concept art which shows Thor using a weapon which doesn’t look like the Mjölnir we’ve seen in the films so far. 

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The Final Infinity Stone? 

So far in the MCU we’ve seen five of the six Infinity Stones with only the Soul Stone yet to be revealed. James Gunn has said that there’s not one in Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 and it seems unlikely that one will pop up in either Spider-Man Homecoming or Black Panther. Therefore, Thor Ragnarok seems the most likely place for the final stone to appear. 

Here’s the Stones we’ve seen so far:

Space Stone – Tesseract (Avengers)

Mind Stone – Loki’s Scepter/Vision’s forehead (Age of Ultron)

Reality Stone – Aether (Thor: The Dark World)

Power Stone – Orb (Guardians of the Galaxy)

Time Stone – Eye of Agamotto (Doctor Strange) 


This leaves only the Soul Stone to be discovered. There’s some speculation that it might be in Thor’s hammer and it might be revealed once Hela smashes it apart but the more interesting suggestion is that the Soul Stone lies within Heimdall, the gatekeeper of Asgard. There’s a line in Thor: The Second Thor in which Heimdall states his ability to see souls. Whether this is a clue or pure coincidence only time will tell but it’s certainly an interesting theory. 

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Planet Hulk

With Marvel reluctant to release a standalone Hulk film for a number of reasons, perhaps most notably the fact that some people, Joss Whedon included, think that Hulk doesn’t work on his own in a solo film. This is hard to argue with given the underwhelming reception of Hulk and The Incredible Hulk. What also complicates the issue is the rights to the distribution of the character in a solo film. The Incredible Hulk, while part of the MCU, was distributed by Universal before Marvel was bought by Disney so that complicates it in ways I don’t understand or care about. 

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Nonetheless, in Thor Ragnarok we’re going to be getting a loose adaption of the popular Hulk storyline, Planet Hulk. In which, Hulk is exiled to Sakaar and forced to fight as a gladiator. How Hulk ends up in this situation in Ragnarok is anyone’s guess but we can assume the quinjet he went off in at the end of Age of Ultron plays a part (despite them not wanting to show the quinjet going into space..?).  It’s also rumoured that we’re going to get a more intelligent version of the character, like in the comic book storyline, with the ability to talk and think and not destroy everything in sight. I’d actually be surprised if we see Bruce Banner appear at all. 

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I’m guessing that when Thor turns up the two of them escape together but what happens after that I’m not sure. I’m guessing Thor plays a similar role to that of the Silver Surfer in Planet Hulk. 

What is Thor doing in New York? 

Thanks to the post-credits scene on Doctor Strange and set photos released during Ragnarok filming, we know that Thor, Loki and Odin end up in New York and that Thor visits Doctor Strange for a hand in finding his father. Thor has long hair here so we can assume this is before Hela has destroyed his hammer and prior to him being exiled on Sakaar so it’s interesting to see him and Loki teaming up presumably early on in the film.

My thinking is that Odin is banished to Earth with no knowledge of who he is. It certainly looks like he’s living rough. I’m assuming Loki realises the error of his ways and offers to help Thor, with Doctor Strange in order to find Odin. It all seems very Thor: The Second Thor but I’m really looking forward to seeing Anthony Hopkin’s Odin having something of interest to do. 

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Is this screen grab of New York? This is after Hela destroys Mjölnir and who is that standing alongside Thor? I’ve heard people suggesting Doctor Strange but to me, it looks more like Loki in his Asgardian gear. Loki is curiously working with Thor quite early on in the film (see hair comment earlier) but we later see him sitting with Jeff Goldblum’s Grandmaster as Thor battles it out with Hulk. So we can expect some sort of betrayal along the way. It’s likely that Loki betrays his brother in order to escape from Hela. 

So that pretty much sums up our thoughts on the Thor: Ragnarok trailer. Let us know if you agree/ disagree and whether you’re looking forward to Thor: The Third Thor.

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